I have downloaded and started playing with them. It's going to get me off Adobe really quick.
It's still under development, so it still has some rough spots, but it's pretty amazing.
The Website where you can get it.
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Adobe is Screwed. So is every other software company
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I have downloaded and started playing with them. It's going to get me off Adobe really quick.
It's still under development, so it still has some rough spots, but it's pretty amazing.
The Website where you can get it.
MCDesigns
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Just playing devils advocate, how is this different in your mind to just uploading a hacked version of these apps for anyone to use?
It isn't the same code, they wrote it from scratch using the functionality. See Borland vs Lotus 1-2-3 from 1990 and you'll see the same thing without the AI.
It's also why Adobe is likely to lose a lawsuit.
MCDesigns
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How do you not use any of the original code if they are able to unlock proprietary Adobe formats and functionality. To me this isn't any different from China reverse engineering other peoples IP
They open sourced the code. If they did use reverse engineering Adobe should be able to show it in court, the code is all there. Because of that my bet is they didn't.
And that actually is the same type of case that I mentioned in the link above. The look and feel is the same, the code is entirely different. And other programs created traditionally can read and use Adobe file formats, that's what the PDF format is all about for one, but other programs read PSD's also.
TailsWin
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File formats aren't that difficult to reverse engineer in principle. Every format has to have some logical structure, and code is running on your computer so you can watch what's it doing. What makes it harder is that formats grow in complexity over time, often by deliberate obfuscation, misleading documentation or encryption, but all that can be solved. The main hurdle is that there just isn't that many people doing that stuff, and people have to sleep, eat and do other things. While with AI you can send a couple thousand agents to go wild, each one working maybe 100x faster than any single human, and they have the knowledge of all the software, code and tricks that exist.
As for functionality? Everything that exists in software today is built from algorithms and approaches that are described in computer science papers somewhere, and everything possible ever is already implemented and documented in some example code snippet somewhere. If you had a couple thousand years, you could be browsing those same papers and code, and build a perfect copy of Photoshop or the Unreal engine from scratch yourself.
The majority of software is open source already anyway, or directly based on it. Proprietary software isn't where the money is, it's the services and infrastructure built around it. This has been true for a while now. If you have an iPhone, a lot of its OS is based on BSD and KHTML. Even if they fully open sourced it or someone cloned it perfectly, it wouldn't matter, you're buying an iPhone for other reasons, not because it has a closed source OS.
Btw if someone stops using Adobe just because some clones pop up, it basically means they could've already been using something else for years. Especially since most people use maybe like 0.1% of functionality, they just want the familiar interface. Nothing new under the sun.
And some people already have moved on. The sticking point is the user interface, and as I said above, those are not covered by copyright, Borland vs Lotus decided that 36 years ago.
I think proprietary software's days are numbered. Good riddance.