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Dark Spot II - El Coyote

langewapper said:
I can post some of my work here .
It's 3d art i did on TDS.
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We'd be happy to have it here, and anybody else that wants to move all their content from TDS to here please do. I wish I had a way to automate it for you.

Note to everybody: Except photomanips of photo's of real people. That one is a model release issue, unless you had the permission of the person in the photo to do that, and I have no way of tracking that, it's a legal issue. It's one thing I have to be happy about with AI generative content, it greatly lessened the need for photos of people to manipulate. In any case that is the one content category of TDS2 we can't have here.
 
Otto Von Herunterhängen said:
Not our call. Even if I scraped the site, I don't have anybody's permission to repost it. If El Coyote had wanted the site to survive him, he would have taken steps to make that happen.
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I heard somewhere that Archstanton is making a mirror of the site but I'm not too sure. And thanks Otto for approving the registration.
 
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Otto Von Herunterhängen said:
Not our call. Even if I scraped the site, I don't have anybody's permission to repost it. If El Coyote had wanted the site to survive him, he would have taken steps to make that happen.

This post (over on TDS2) is when it happened: https://thedarkspottwo.com/forum/th...gs/385203-sad-and-bad-news-for-tds-and-tds-ii

If he had wanted to make plans for the site transitioning to a new owner, he would have done it back in May.

The artwork belongs to everybody that posted it, The site belonged to El Coyote. And while it is sad we are losing it, I have to respect his wishes. I didn't try to get the content from Visions of Darkness for the same reason, we started new here.

Me taking all the posts from TDS2 and putting them on a new site without the artists permission is what's called "piracy"

The only reason Uncle Bucks Blog is still up is I was already hosting it, nothing got moved, I didn't break any copyrights doing it.
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I take your point, but when Geno's Dead Skirts went down everything there was lost - since then some items have been recovered but not all by a long chalk.

Sadly, Geno had said before he passed that he was prepared to let me run the site (and pay for the monthly server-usage licence) in his absence until he returned from his hopsital visit; but he sadly died (from kidney failure) before he could pass over to m e the keys to his kingdom especially the password codes. Thus, when myself (and also tried by another person) tried to pay the monthly rent on the licence, our payments were sent back and then the site was closed down.

If TDS2 is to disappear, and nobody seems to quite know when this is going to happen, then please put a notice up to this affect somewhere on the site that everyone can read - the site will be taken down, so all members should try to save or download their own work while they can.
 
xj900uk said:
If TDS2 is to disappear, and nobody seems to quite know when this is going to happen, then please put a notice up to this affect somewhere on the site that everyone can read - the site will be taken down, so all members should try to save or download their own work while they can.
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Nyghtfall already did that, its the site notice at the top of every page:

The Dark Spot 2 will cease operations once it runs out of money, and is no longer accepting new members. As far as we know, El Coyote never gave anyone the information needed to keep the lights on. Meanwhile, we highly recommend current members download any content you want to save. We cannot give you a deadline because we don't know when the billing cycle ends.
 
Nyghtfall also said he'll try to reach out to the hosting provider to find if it's possible for someone else to pay for the site.

Technically, the site is now part of the estate so legally it's up to the inheritors and executors to decide what to do with it. From what I gather, Coyote's penchant for dark arts probably wasn't totally unknown even irl. Apparently he even owned/managed the original Dolcett archive, or something like that?

My point is, his estate will have to deal with this stuff that may come weird to them, or they may not know what to do with it. For now, I think it's worth it to keep an eye on things and make any possible attempts to preserve the site or keep it running. Maybe the estate will decide to continue the legacy, and the existing community is the best candidate to take over if that's the case.

TDS may have been Coyote's site, and he certainly was keeping it close to his chest, but the community is more than just one person. Obviously that's me, the resident communist/anarchist talking, but still.
 
TailsWin said:
TDS may have been Coyote's site, and he certainly was keeping it close to his chest, but the community is more than just one person.
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This is a common misnomer about message boards, especially privately owned ones. Their tenure and value to their community does not create an entitlement to keep it running if the site owner decides to close it or passes away. TDS and TDS2's closure are inevitable. The circumstances are shitty, but we must accept that and move on.

TailsWin said:
Nyghtfall also said he'll try to reach out to the hosting provider to find if it's possible for someone else to pay for the site.
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In case my follow-up comment on TDS2 was missed, I reached out to Dreamhost yesterday evening. They cannot disclose billing details to forum members. Only the verified executor of the estate, or receiver, may grant access to the hosting panel, or pay the bill themselves.
 
We do know that Snuff Princess has contact with El C's family (it's how the news was broken and the obituary was shared) so maybe she could look into that...
 
So i am late with this, Gutted El Coyote has passed, we share some talks over time, but for some reason i forget now, haven't been on the Dark spot site for a long time, so i take it the currant members are coming here, if so it will be nice to meet old friends again, and hope El is smiling down on us
 
According to board stats over on The Dark Spot II there are 269 Active members out of 9,000, and we are close to 200 new members from there here, so closing in on the entire active membership.

I'm looking at the forum structure over there. I want to keep what we have here, but I could put in a "The Dark Spot" Section, and match the forum structure there under it where it makes sense. TDS2 also has a couple of features there - Articles, Blogs, a Calendar, and Groups, we don't have, but from what I can see, aside from Blogs, they never got much use if any.

I think the only thing we would be missing is the historical posts, I can't do anything about that, anybody that comes over of course is welcome to post those threads again.

That and El Coyote, I can growl at you from time to time to make up for it ;)
 
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